Below is an email reply sent to a young girl with a couple of questions. She wrote in a polite manner and so decided to write her back. I don't correspond with nasty people.
Anyway, I decided to post my answer on my blog.
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Thank you for your letter of inquiry. I do not make an attempt to prove to other people that our position is right or their position is wrong. I have no inner need to convince people one way or another. We simply seek to open the door to those people who have the same love for our people as the Apostle Paul expressed in Romans 9
“I speak the truth in Christ--I am not lying, my conscience confirms it in the Holy Spirit-- I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. For I could wish that I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my brothers, those of my own race.” (New International Version)
(King James says)
“I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost, That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart. For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:”
(Holman Christian Standard Bible)
"I speak the truth in Christ--I am not lying; my conscience is testifying to me with the Holy Spirit-- that I have intense sorrow and continual anguish in my heart. For I could wish that I myself were cursed and cut off from the Messiah for the benefit of my brothers, my countrymen by physical descent."
The New Covenant related in Jeremiah 31 and Hebrews 8 was made to these very same selected people.
"The time is coming," declares the Lord, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. It will not be like the covenant I made with their forefathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them," declares the Lord. "This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time," declares the Lord. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people."
There can be little doubt that this covenant spoken of by God was directed to Israel, and pertains to Israel. It is the same covenant the Apostle Paul mentions in Hebrews 8.
When we speak of the New Covenant we must keep it is the context of scripture.
“The time is coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. 9 It will not be like the covenant I made with their forefathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they did not remain faithful to my covenant, and I turned away from them, declares the Lord. 10 This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.”
I want to point out verse seven:
"For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another."
This first covenant mentioned is not the Abrahamic Covenant (Gen 12, Gen 17) but was the covenant of the law. The law could never bring Israel to salvation. Only the covenant of blood found in Jesus Christ could purchase for Israel what they could never attain on their own. I believe that this New Covenant was the promise the Apostle Paul was referencing in Romans 15:8 “Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:”
The Scripture you gave at the beginning of your correspondence is most vital because it supports every contention we make.
“For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: 4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; 5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen. "
It was Israel that was given the adoption
It was Israel that was given the glory
It was Israel that was given the covenants
It was Israel that was given the law
It was Israel that was given the service of God and,
It was Israel that was given the promises.
I am not foolish enough to think that these few short comments will convince you of anything different that what you already believe. Also I am quite aware that there are Scriptures that seem to contradict what I am saying about God’s selection of Israel as His servant and whose salvation His crucifixion and resurrection came to secure. Also, I haven’t given any reason why you should believe (as I do) that the Anglo-Saxon, Nordic, Germanic, and kindred people of Europe should be identified as the Children of Israel. Nor have I offered any attempt to give the identity of modern Jewry.
None of the above would have any understanding to you or anyone else if they did not have love for their people. After all, why should I take time discussing verse 6-10 with someone who can’t even comprehend verse 3. A close friend of mine once said, “I know how these people feel, because I used to feel the same way and I just didn’t understand the love of God. I tried to put it into human understanding and relationship, but it never made since until I submitted myself to God.”
Thank you for writing, but there is really nothing I can do for you. I have offered a little to perhaps crack the door. But if someone has no love for our people and the wonderful covenant God gave Abraham, Isaac and Jacob-Israel, then what can I do? I can’t put it in you any more than a young man can MAKE the girl of his dreams love him. And without that agape love nothing I say will make any sense.
I wish you well!
So what's exactly wrong with people of color anyway, and can't you love them equally?
ReplyDeleteI I am even white, and I am sure is 100 % that the skin colour, is an adaptation nature Adaptation " Transfer(Transformation) according to the external stimuli that's all ..;, sun = black
ReplyDeleteclouds = white and hairy lol
YOU AND YOURS theorie = CRAZY FROG lol = Hitler and ridiculus KUSSKUSS KLAN
The science is a magnificent thing(matter) which opens us eyes, you are vestige of the ignorance and what is terrible c " is that you persist, to teach you has your child the ignorance, has your opinion(notice) why you and your thoughts twisted have were banished and an individual of your organization will never have The Nobel Prize in Chemistry either of peace or important discovery, even if you dare to claim, even if you do not believe in the science when you will have an illness or a tension as every human being ca will be the science which will save you not your skin colour which is just that the result(profit) of the adaptation has the environment
ReplyDelete"So what's exactly wrong with people of color anyway, and can't you love them equally?"
ReplyDeleteYou tell me? Why do whites have to feel guilty about their past and give massive handouts to minorities? Why are blacks held on high for every accomplishment they make. Such as the first black mayor or blah blah blah? This is not racist? It is perfectly ok for blacks to love their race but it is not ok for whites to do the same? Obama is the perfect example. The first black president. Why care about the color of his skin right? People voted for this man because he was BLACK! Period. Guilty whites and minorities voted for this bum. It did not matter that he needed a teleprompter every where he went. But the color of his skin made all the difference. He was held on high.
First of all I believe in Science because God created science in the first place. Nothing you are doing or discovering is not unknown to the Lord! He is the master scientist.
ReplyDeleteIt is a sin to love everyone equally. It is a sin to love all children equally. For a man it is a sin to love all women equally. For a woman it is a sin to love all men equally. It is a sin for a child to love all fathers and all mothers equally.
ReplyDeleteA man should love his wife MORE than the neighbor’s wife. A women should love her husband MORE than the neighbor’s husband. Parents are to love their children MORE than the neighbor’s children. Children are to love their parents MORE than the neighbor kid’s parents. We are to love our people MORE than other people.
Because a man loves his wife more does not mean he hates the neighbor’s wife. Because a woman loves her husband more does not mean she hates the neighbor’s husband. Because parents love their children more does not mean they hate the neighbor’s children. Because children love their parents more does not mean they hate the neighbor kid’s parents. Because we love our people more does not mean we hate other people.
Is it really that hard to understand?
Yet you condescend on people of color as if they did something wrong without ever considering that many haven't done a thing. Look it's not about loving someone's wife equally as your own but treating other with the esteem you want them to give. With your analogy then it's sin to love all whites equally as well.
ReplyDelete"You tell me? Why do whites have to feel guilty about their past and give massive handouts to minorities? Why are blacks held on high for every accomplishment they make. Such as the first black mayor or blah blah blah? This is not racist? It is perfectly ok for blacks to love their race but it is not ok for whites to do the same? Obama is the perfect example. The first black president. Why care about the color of his skin right? People voted for this man because he was BLACK! Period. Guilty whites and minorities voted for this bum. It did not matter that he needed a teleprompter every where he went. But the color of his skin made all the difference. He was held on high."
Truly ignorant aren't you? That was not the point. What is past is past. Nothing correct it as it is set in stone. The point was to ask about holding everyone in equal esteem as you would want. But Pastor Robb tries to justify inequality based on his own interpretation of the Bible. Simply but he feels that Christianity is only for whites. Therefore if the Bible's laws don't include then they don't apply to me either. I guess then that non-white should embrace science as it's the wave of the future.
"... guess then that non-white should embrace science as it's the wave of the future."
ReplyDeleteFollow science and see where it gets you in the end. Jesus is the Light, the Truth and the Way. No one gets to the Father except through Him. You shall worship no other Gods before Him.
"Simply but he feels that Christianity is only for whites."
Christianity is for everyone of any color. Paul was a gentile. Paul was having Christians put to death and Jesus chose him to preach the Word of God. Do not believe this man that Heaven is "whites only".
Missouri Synod, Perhaps it was only a misstatement but you said Paul was a "gentile." But that is not correct. Paul was an Israelite.
ReplyDeleteRom 11:1
“I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.”
I am sure Pastor Robb caught your blunder right away. Why are you indifferent and display an “I don’t care attitude” about white people? It is very disturbing to see someone who just doesn’t care whether White people are victims of hate crimes, or whether our homeland is being invaded. I just don’t understand how you can be that way.
Your homeland is Europe not Israel and not the US.
ReplyDelete"It is very disturbing to see someone who just doesn’t care whether White people are victims of hate crimes, or whether our homeland is being invaded. I just don’t understand how you can be that way."
ReplyDeleteIt is very disturbing to me to see people call themselves Christians yet they judge their neighbor by the color of their skin.
Dear Missouri Synod: There you go again! Whose talking about judging anyone? If there is a danger to my family should I not attempt to warn them? If there is a danger to you our your family would you not want me or someone to warn you?
ReplyDeleteThere is a growing danger to white people. Just because you do not see it does not mean it does not exist!
Thomas Robb you live in fear. Just because someone looks different than you, speaks a different language, has different customs, ect. You are afraid of them. As for your point. Is crime higher in minority communities? Yes. Tell me though does that make every black man, every Asian, every Mexican a criminal? You see I want to take the time to judge for myself who is good and who is bad and not judge a whole group of people for the actions of a few. Maybe if you take the time to get to know some people of a different color you might think differently of them.
ReplyDelete"There is a growing danger to white people. Just because you do not see it does not mean it does not exist!"
ReplyDeleteWhat are you going to do about it? Nothing. People join your group, you make a few speeches, things get talked about but no action is ever taken. Why? Because no one takes you guys seriously. They think you are a bunch of crazies dressed in bed sheets. Nobody in Congress is going to seriously listen to you even if you did get voted in. David Duke is the perfect example. What did he accomplish in office? Nothing.
"it is very disturbing to see someone who just doesn’t care whether White people are victims of hate crimes, or whether our homeland is being invaded."
ReplyDeleteFirst of all I am for stopping Mexican illegal immigration! I am for laws that protect everyone and not give certain people favor over others. So what does that mean that I should wear my white bed sheets and light a cross on fire? Why not petition the government for what you want? How many of you complainers are active in government? How many of you write your congressmen? This is a better way to solve things than the Klan!
PETITION THE GOVERNMENT? Are you KIDDING? PETITION THE GOVERNMENT? Hey Clem are you THAT naive? THE GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM! JEEZ!
ReplyDeleteMissouri Synod wrote:
ReplyDelete"I am for laws that protect everyone and not give certain people favor over others. So what does that mean that I should wear my white bed sheets and light a cross on fire?"
Carleton Putnam wrote:
"It is totally incorrect to say that a 'principle of equality' is embodied in the Constitution. The 14th Amendment refers to 'equal protection of the laws,' but nowhere in this amendment, nor anywhere else in our national charter, is there any support for a concept of social or biological equality. The principle which the AAAS (American Association for the Advancement of Science) committee dwells upon simply does not exist."
-- Race and Reality
Missouri Synod:
Why do you want social equality for Blacks, when Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln and other major historical American leaders said they were opposed to such dangerous equality?
"Why do you want social equality for Blacks, when Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln and other major historical American leaders said they were opposed to such dangerous equality?"
ReplyDeleteWell you see you follow man and I look to the bible. You may look to the bible but take selected verses and use them to your advantage. The bible says in Revelations that John saw all races in Heaven. Heaven is not whites only! How can you say you hate no one yet want to exclude people for the color of their skin?
"I am for laws that protect everyone and not give certain people favor over others."
ReplyDeleteIf you are going to jump on me for saying this then you should rebuke your leader, Thomas Robb. His political party says the same thing.
"PETITION THE GOVERNMENT? Are you KIDDING? PETITION THE GOVERNMENT? Hey Clem are you THAT naive? THE GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM! JEEZ!"
ReplyDeleteJust goes to show you klansmen are not Americans. You do not believe in America. Our officials are elected officials. If you believe the government is the problem and there is no solution through elections then I pity you!
If you are going to jump on me for saying this then you should rebuke your leader, Thomas Robb. His political party says the same thing.
ReplyDeleteMissouri Synod,
I really meant to draw your attention to the words of Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln, with which I though you might be familiar:
Thomas Jefferson wrote:
"Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than that these people [blacks] are to be free. Nor is it less certain that the two races, equally free, cannot live in the same government. Nature, habit, opinion has drawn indelible lines of distinction between them." --Thomas Jefferson: Autobiography, 1821.
Linoln said:
"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races,that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race."
"Just goes to show you klansmen are not Americans. You do not believe in America."
ReplyDeleteIn other words, anyone who criticizes the government is unpatriotic. Hogwash! We are as patriotic as you are - maybe more so. We even have a number of veterans in the Knights - some of whom were wounded in combat.
"Our officials are elected officials."
Elected - yes. Ours - no. The bulk of them are totally subservient to the real power brokers. To find out who these power brokers are, read "My Awakening" by Dr.David Duke. Everything that Dr. Duke asserts in this book is well documented and can be verified by independent research.
"If you believe the government is the problem and there is no solution through elections then I pity you!"
Save that pity for yourself. No one is advocating doing away with elections. Again, the problem is the government (specifically, the real power brokers who have corrupted it). We advocate getting rid of this corruption and restoring our government to its original form, as intended by the Founding Fathers. Again, to find out about the power brokers, read "My Awakening".