Tuesday, May 19, 2009

"Pastor" Henry? and the Street Preachers

A Pastor Henry posted the following comment on my blog for May 16th, but I decided to highlight it as an example of Proverbs 18:13.

  • Pastor Henry’s comments

  • This is laughable! Are you people insane? Or do I even have to ask that question? So some former Jew now Christian "STREET" preacher. Emphasis on the word street. Tells you the Zionists are overthrowing the world and you believe em? A street preacher. That means one he is either homeless or two has no church to preach out of. Let me guess the zionists probably took his home or church away right? If any of this were true how come only a group of backwards Ku Klux Klansmen know about it? Don't you think David Duke and you people would be dead if this were true? You really need to seek professional help.

The person above who commented about the only people who claim Jesus was not a Jew are homeless street preachers and nobodies is an example of people who are prejudice and unwilling to have their ideas challenged. Rather than examine and digesting facts and information they simply breaks out in name calling.

Arthur Koestler and Alfred Lilienathal, two of the sources making this claim can never honestly be called nobodies. Here is some information about these two men.

Arthur Koestler who was Jewish authored over two-dozen books and there has been at least 8 biographies written about him. He was a man of great renown, a member of the Center for Advanced Study in Behavioral Sciences at Stanford University, received the Sonning Prize at the University of Copenhagen for his contributions to European culture and a Commander of the Order of the British Empire. He was a much sought out lecturer in the United States and throughout Europe.

No one can honestly deny the credibility of Arthur Koestler. Pictured at left. In 1976 Random House, a very large book publisher in New York published The Thirteenth Tribe written by Arthur Koestler.
In The 13th Tribe Koestler wrote extensively about the Khazar Kingdom located in eastern Europe between the Black and Caspian Seas. The online encyclopedia - Wikipedia - says this about Koestler’s research into the Khazar Kingdom.

  • "Koestler's book The Thirteenth Tribe advanced the controversial thesis that Ashkenazi Jews are not descended from the Israelites of antiquity, but from the Khazars, a Turkic people in the Caucasus who converted to Judaism in the 8th century . . . "
Jewish researcher and author, Alfred Lilienthal was born in 1915 graduated with a law degree from Columbia University in 1938 . He was a consultant to the U.S. delegation to the United Nations Conference on International Organization at San Francisco. He was a lecturer, TV and Radio commentator, author of magazine articles and syndicated news pieces as well as columnist with the Nashville Banner, the Arizona Daily Star and the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs.

In 1982 he published, The Zionist Connection II in which he concurs with Koestler and states,

  • "Therefore, the great majority of Eastern European Jews are not Semitic Jews at all, and as most Western European Jews came from East Europe, most of them also are not Semitic Jews."

You can read more about these men on Wikipedia. Oh, I guess maybe "Pastor" Henry would rather hear of this from the Jewish Encyclopedia itself, published in 1965 with 22 contributing editors It says the Khazars:


  • "lived along the lower Volga in the region of Crimea, during the 8th-10th centuries, they reached the zenith of their power, and during this period a Judaizing movement took place among them when King Bulan together with some 4,000 nobles adopted the Jewish faith."

The existence of these books are without question and I have all of these and others in my library.

The question you should be asking is, "Why has not this information been more widely distributed? Why am I just now hearing about it? Who has kept this information away from me?"

44 comments:

Anonymous said...

Pastor Henry,

Judge the website and credibility of Br. Nathanael Kapner (Orthodox Christian clergyman) for yourself:

Real Zionist News

http://www.realjewnews.com/

Anonymous said...

From the Kapner interview:

Interviewer: 'They [Jews] want to destroy family, nation, race, religion, and democracy. Is that what they write?'

Kapner, 'They target the youth. One of the Protocols is to corrupt the Christian youth.' [. . .]

Interviewer: 'The President over there in France, Sarkozy (a Jew) -- he has made a statement that 'if the French people don't intermarry with other races, France will make it harder for them to find work. [. . .]'

Kapner: 'This is the subversion of nationalism. And it is called 'multiculturalism.' And only the Jews win in a multicultural society, because they are an organized minority. [. . . ] The Jews are there in control as a very organized minority.'

Kapner: [About Obama's Birth Certificate]: 'The Supreme Court has been bought off or been told, 'You're gonna be dead tomorrow if you investigate the Obama birth certificate situation.'

Pastor Henry said...

Kapner was a Jew. So how do you know you can trust him? How do you know you are not being fed a bunch of disinformation by the zionists?

Anonymous said...

I have heard the conspiracy theories. The Jews are responsible for 9/11. The First World Trade Center bombing. Oklahoma City bombing. The economy, ect. Pastor Henry is right you people are in need of some professional help.

Anonymous said...

The question you should be asking is, "Why has not this information been more widely distributed? Why am I just now hearing about it? Who has kept this information away from me?"

Because this information is bogus! It is a combination of Anti-Semetic hatred and fear of Jewish people.

Hey chump, if God is not with Israel. Tell me why then did they win all these wars against the Muslim countries? Especially when a couple of times they were outnumbered and still won. Because God does not forget his covenants.

Dave said...

This Kaplan is as about as credible as me, being an ex-Catholic, saying I know all about the Pope and his dealings. Silliness.

Thomas Robb said...

The posters above continue with the name calling but can not successfully challenge the statements of Koestler and Lillienthal. And what about the Jewish encyclopedia itself? It is not a question of whether it is or is not important. It is a question of whether it is true or not.
I am sorry "Pastor" Henry and Dave, you just don't have the credibility of Koesler and Lillienthal . . . or the Jewish Enclopedia.
Making fun of me, calling me names and joking about the issue doesn't change historical fact.

Pastor Henry said...

Ok I will call your bluff. Then who are these evil Jews who want to overthrow the world?

Pastor Henry said...

I give up you win. Lets have a massive police round up of all Jews. Ship them to somewhere where we can put them in concentration camps. Then we can tell them they are going to take a shower and gas them. Sound good? I bet this is the outcome you would love to see.

Anonymous said...

Is that you Heinrich Himmler?

Anonymous said...

That guy in the picture reminds me of Moe from the Three Stooges.

Anonymous said...

Pastor Robb: Why do you post these comments when it is obvious they have nothing to add to the discussion.
Name calling and ridicule are the weapons of children. If they have something positive to say then let them say it, but if not, perhaps they should have a humble spirit and be willing to learn an area of European history of which they are not familiar.

Thomas Robb said...

I post them for that very reason. Their ranting about gas chambers, Himmler, rounding up Jews etc help to show the impotence of their argument. There are many people who visit this blog and read this information and these posters by demonstrating that there is no credible opposing view actually add credibility to the historical fact of history. Namely about 740 AD, the Khazars, a Turko-Mongolian people, with no blood kin to the ancient Israelites adopted the Talmudic religion which also became known as Judaism.
I want to add that this Talmudic (Judaism) religion is not the same religious faith of the Israelites. That is to say, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, David, Isaiah, Jeremiah or the Israel nation as a whole never practiced the Jewish religion.
I am always amazed by the hatred that people like “Pastor” Henry and Dave have for other Christians simply because there are areas of disagreement.
I am a born-again Christian, I pastor the Christian Revival Center. I believe in all the fundamental teachings of the church. I believe in the virgin birth, I believe Jesus lived a sinless life, that he voluntarily went to the cross and freely shed his blood to purchase our redemption. He conquered death and bodily rose from the dead. I believe he is returning to judge and rule the world.
I am a Christian brother and yet, “Pastor” Henry, Dave (and some anonymous) feel more compelled to attack me simply because I have pointed out an historical fact and have even used Jewish sources to support what I have said.

Anonymous said...

Historical Fact: Antisemitism was punishable by death under the Bolshevik Revolution administrated by communist jews. Millions of Christians died.

Anonymous said...

Pastor Henry said...
Kapner was a Jew. So how do you know you can trust him? How do you know you are not being fed a bunch of disinformation by the zionists?


Answer: The fact that Jews run Hollywood and dominate the mass media is well documented. Their activities in 'education' and international politics are widely known. Every member of the U.S. Congress is aware of Jewish power.

Jewish Prime Minister of England, Benjamin Disraeli, should be a credible witness to Jewish political ambition.

The fact that the "French" President, Sarkozy, is a Jew and that he calls for the end of the French people racially and and culturally is also well documented.

The evidence of Jewish anti-nationalism is overwhelming, and it comes from men like Churchill and Einstein. Yes, Albert Einstein, back in the 1950s, was campaigning for a single world government.

All Kapner does is acknowledge to the world that the evidence we already possess from reliable Gentile sources is true.

And if you're a Pastor, consider the work of Sigmund Freud. His writings are an abundant witness to the subversion of Christian morality. He did this because he wanted to destroy Christianity -- especially the Roman Catholic Church.

Anonymous said...

Pastor Henry said...
I give up you win. Lets have a massive police round up of all Jews. Ship them to somewhere where we can put them in concentration camps. Then we can tell them they are going to take a shower and gas them. Sound good? I bet this is the outcome you would love to see.

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I cannot speak for Thomas Robb, so here are my lay opinions:

No, Pastor Henry. Jesus warned us against any attempt at genocide.

There are several decent solutions to the problem of Jewish power over Christians.

The best would be the return of Jesus Christ to rule the world.

Failing that, the Jews can be kept segregated, as they were historically in the Netherlands, without persecution or malice.

A third measure would be to grant them a homeland where they can live in peace, unmolested, and govern themselves only.

On another website I came across a video of a Jewish youth who is intoxicated and engaging in bravado. This is a video clip from the Middle East, though I do not know the exact spot.

It contains foul language and senseless hatred of Our Lord Jesus Christ. On the other hand, it does give solid proof of how some Jews think -- what they have been taught for centuries -- about Christ and His followers.

I leave it to the discretion of Thomas Robb, whether to post this link or not. (If he chooses not to, I fully understand.) Also, I am not happy about the source of this clip, "back2islam." The radical Islamics are just as crazy as the radical Zionists, and every bit as dangerous when outside their proper territories.

I do not hate this young Jewish man -- I pity him. I think that he is both poisened with alcohol and heavily indoctrinated -- instructed daily in senseless hatred from his earliest childhood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3ocDIDiozc


Matthew 13:
V27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
V28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
V29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
V30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

V38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one

Anonymous said...

Hey chump, if God is not with Israel. Tell me why then did they win all these wars against the Muslim countries? Especially when a couple of times they were outnumbered and still won. Because God does not forget his covenants.

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Again, I am not Thomas Robb.

I remember in my youth hearing a Bible-teacher (J. Vernon McGee) who believed the Jews were the Chosen People say that if this present (1948 - now) 'return of the Jews' to the Promised Land were truly the work of God, there would be no contest at all. The entire world would be awe-struck and would understand that prophecy had been fulfilled, and no one would oppose the State of Israel. The entire world would be pro-Israel, if God were in it, and there would be absolute peace in the Holy Land.

(Of course, I have put all that in my own words, as best I can recall the essence of what he was teaching.)

Pastor Henry said...

"Their ranting about gas chambers, Himmler, rounding up Jews etc help to show the impotence of their argument."

Impotence of the argument? Are you serious? It is insane Anti-Semetic ranting like this that inspired Adolf Hitler, Himmler, David Duke, Matt Hale, Tom Metzger and you! While your looking at history remember that 6 million people were murdered because of paranoid Anti-Semetism like this. I do not think it should happen again. Unlike you I do not want another Adolf Hitler.

Dr. Karl Klein said...

Excuse do not try to insult my intellegence. I am a minister of a church. One that teaches the bible accurately. Something seems odd to me because: Never did Paul mention in the bible he hated Jews or blacks. Never did Christ say he hated blacks or say he hated Jews. Never did Jesus or any of the twelve apostles say anything about race. Never in the bible does it say God favors white people over anyone. However John said he saw all races in Heaven in Revelations. And it says that least will be the greatest and the greatest shall be the least. Maybe to these blacks you hate so much you will be their footstool. Philip in Acts. baptized an Ethiopian. Ever see a white Ethiopian? I haven't. Remember Christ taught us to pray for our enemies not hang them from trees! Christ however did warn us to beware of false teachers. AKA Pastor Robb. Dr. Karl Klein

Thomas Robb said...

"Dr" Klien and "Pastor" Henry have again sidesteped the only issue "on the table." Are present day Jews descended from the Biblical Israelites or are they descended from the Ashkenazi Khazars as stated by many historians including, Arthur Koestler, Alfred Lillienthal and of course the Jewish Enclopedia?
The want to jump to other issues with sensationalism.
As to hate, I have never said I hate blacks, Jews, or anyone? No where in the hundred of articles I have written, hundreds of interviews and speeches I have given over the past 40 years have I said I hate anyone.
"Pastor" Henry and "Dr" Klien, please stay on point.
Your failure to properly address the issue is beginning to make you look foolish.

Dr. Karl Klein said...

I do not know what the quotes are for "Dr." but I have a doctorate degree. I worked hard for it and did not buy it as I suspect someone has. Let us discuss the issue on the table then. What difference does it make that the Jews of today are Khazars? They are still Jews. If someone came from the North Pole and became a Christian he would still be a Christian correct? I see no relevance to your argument.

Dr. Karl Klein said...

"The radical Islamics are just as crazy as the radical Zionists, and every bit as dangerous when outside their proper territories."

Funny how you never mention radical Christianity which you belong to. The KKK is just like these groups they have killed to get their point across. "Before you take the splinter out of your brother's eye you should remove the wooden beam in your own!"

Thomas Robb said...

Ok I will leave the quote marks off of the title Dr. If Dr. Klein did work hard for his degree then he deserves this respect.
He is getting a little closer but still not on point! He asks, “What different does it make?” I don’t know, maybe it doesn’t make any difference! Never-the-less we must stay on point, the whole discussion is based on the observation of an historical event. Are present day “Jews” blood kin to the ancient Israelites or are they Ashkenazi Khazars?
If anyone is brave enough go to http://www.stormfront.org/radioheader/flashplayer4.html and listen

Pastor Henry said...

I notice you did not answer Dr. Klein's question. Why? What is the revelance of the modern Jewry being Khazars? How does that make one single difference to anything? Your a "pastor". If you believe in your religion then teach us your views.

Anonymous said...

I think it is relevant, if for no other reason, because liberals always remind us that "Jesus was a Jew."

Klan is gum on my shoe said...

"The entire world would be pro-Israel, if God were in it, and there would be absolute peace in the Holy Land."

Ever hear of a somebody named Satan? The adversary of God? Of course he is going to oppose Israel. There will never be peace on this earth while man inhabits it.

Pastor Henry said...

Where are you now? Before you are so quick to jump on us and make your comments. Now that we talk about what you want and ask you the revelance of this you get silent. Why? Maybe because all of this means nothing? Maybe because the Jews being Khazars has no revelance whatsoever?

Thomas Robb said...

Pastor Henry keeps pounding that they do not have to answer the question about the identity of the modern Jew until relevance of it has been determined.
So for the sake of argument I will concede without prejudice that there is no relevance. Just an attempt to remain historically accurate.
Many Jewish writers and historians, including the Jewish Encyclopedia state that modern "Jews" are not Biblical Jews and have no racial kinship them them. And thus no scriptural claim to the Holy Land. I really do not have a lot of time to spend on this issue when the evidence is overwhelming to those who are willing a pursual of the subject - even just a little.
Until Dr. Klein and "Pastor" Henry offer valid rebuttal, I am dropping the subject for now. Those who wish to hear more can go here: http://www.stormfront.org/radioheader/flashplayer4.html

Dr. Karl Klein said...

And thus no scriptural claim to the Holy Land.

Well that is the revelance is it not? Your trying to prove that the modern Jews have no bloodline to the Jews of the Bible and have no claim to the Holy Land. I wonder if you know what revelance means?

Thomas Robb said...

My dear Doctor: The word is relevance,like in "related to," not revelance. You misspelled it twice so I know it wasn't a typo. Maybe I should go back to "Dr."
With that said, however, I really do not think anything worthwhile comes out of trading barbs with each other.
The simple fact is that present day Jews are of no blood kin to Biblical Israel.
You need to learn to accept historical evidence and build on that instead of building on a false foundation.
Jesus Christ is the Son of God, he shed his blood for our redemption. He lived a sinless life and from out of that there is an extreme hatred for Christ and Christianity that comes from these Ashkenazi Jews. Why do you defend those that hate Christ and then attack a Christian brother?. That is if you are a Christian. I guess I really don't know that you are as I don't think you have ever said.
If you do not want to accept what I am saying, its OK, I don't hate you for it. You are free to travel on as I have offered plenty of evidence and made it available at the links I have provided so I need to deal with other things. I am not one to have internet battles.
So go in peace, may the Lord be with you and I truly thank you for your interest. God bless!

Anonymous said...

"Ever hear of a somebody named Satan? The adversary of God? Of course he is going to oppose Israel. There will never be peace on this earth while man inhabits it."

A bright lamp will dispell all darkness in a room. God is all-powerful. If He brings His people home to the land He has promised them, there will be no adverary to thwart God's Will.

"And I will strengthen the house of Judah, and I will save the house of Joseph [Ephraim], and I will bring them again [to the Holy Land] to place them; for I have mercy on them: and they shall be as though I had not cast them off: for I am YHWH their God, and I will hear them."

Zechariah 10:6

'The "two Israels" then unite in Zechariah chapter eleven.'

Did you ever read in Scripture of Satan being bound and not allowed to do his malicious work on the Earth?

"Revelation 20

1And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season."

Anonymous said...

"What is the revelance of the modern Jewry being Khazars? How does that make one single difference to anything?"

It's called fraud.

Anonymous said...

It's called fraud.


How is that fraud? Jews take converts to their religion. So they are Jews!

Anonymous said...

I do not see why these two pastors try to argue these points with you. The proof that they are right is in your membership numbers.

Rob Majors said...

You have a lot of room to talk about Jews. How can you and the Klan say you are a Christian when you set crosses on fire? You burn the symbol of Christianity.

Anonymous said...

I am highly offended by these people claiming that present day Khazar "Jews" are true Biblical Jews.
Dr. Kein and the others are anti-Semitic frauds. I am a true Jew and practice the Jewish faith of the Bible. I am not a convert, my parents were faithful orthodox Jews also. Today we are Christians, our Jewish faith in complete in Christ. But these Khazars are not Semites, they are imposters.

NCKnight said...

Rob Majors said...
You have a lot of room to talk about Jews. How can you and the Klan say you are a Christian when you set crosses on fire? You burn the symbol of Christianity.

May 22, 2009 6:18 AM

Rob - you are mistaken. We do not BURN the cross, we LIGHT it - to show that Jesus Christ is the Light of the world. This excerpt from the FAQ page of our website (http://www.kkk.bz/faq.htm) explains this issue far more eloquently than I ever could:

Q. Why do you burn the cross?

A. Many have been led to believe the Klan burns the cross as an act of desecrating a Christian symbol. Nothing could be further from the truth. The lighted cross is an old symbol used on the hillsides of Scotland. Many churches today use the lighted cross as a symbol. The Methodist church uses the cross with flames at its base sweeping up and around the cross. The Lutheran church uses the symbolism. When the Klan was founded there was not electricity. They could not light up a cross the way we light up a Christmas tree. Fire was used. The fire was used to symbolize the fiery light of Christ - a metaphor often used in the Bible. The Cross obviously is a symbol of Christianity. The Cross lighting ceremony gives honor to Jesus Christ.
The cross lighting ceremony was not used until the twenties. The original Klan of the 1800's did not use a lighted cross. When you see movies depicting Klansmen burning crosses in some black ex-slave family's home, this is a lie. This ceremony had not even been created yet.

The Klan's ( family tribes) of Scotland would use the lighted cross as a warning to other family tribes that danger was imminent. It came to symbolize a warning of tyranny in their midst. These two ideals of the cross lighting ( warning against tyranny and giving honor to the fiery truth of Christ) were combined to create the key Klux Klan cross lighting ceremony. It is no more a desecration of the cross than it is for the American Legion to respectfully lay to peace an American flag by setting it on fire.

The Klan does not burn crosses in people's yards. Sometimes those who are trying to act like the Hollywood created Klan will burn a cross in someone's yard as a prank. This is wrong and is not condoned. Usually, however, the prank is actually a means of getting sympathy support from the community. There have been many incidences in which nonwhites would burn a cross on their own lawn and then blame the Klan for it. These cases make headline news. But when the so-called victims are found out to be the actual perpetrators, the story is usually found in small print buried deep within the newspaper somewhere.

Anonymous said...

"How is that fraud? Jews take converts to their religion. So they are Jews!"

Conversions are very, very, very rare and only serve an ulterior motive of window dressing for gullible goyim. When someone lies about their identity in order to reap great profit... it's called fraud. Modern jews are Khazars, while pretending to be Semitic. Give me your name and I'll pretend to be you and convert to whatever faith you believe in. That's your logic or lack thereof.

Anonymous said...

The one thing Jews do not do is proselytize for their religion.

With all the mass media they own, where do you see them with an evangelist appealing to the Gentiles on behalf of their faith?

Their religion is a family affair and is not meant to be shared with outsiders.

Occasionally a liberal Jew will marry a Gentile and the Gentile will convert to Judaism. This happened with Elizabeth Taylor -- though it did not last.

Anonymous said...

I agree. The Catholics and Protestants show their message on TV. You never see a Jewish service on tv

Anonymous said...

I agree. The Catholics and Protestants show their message on TV. You never see a Jewish service on tv

Because the faiths are different. Christ commands us to go and make disciples of all nations. Jews were not commanded to do so. That does not make their religion wrong because they are not on TV. Most of these preachers you see on TV are just in it for the money anyway.

Anonymous said...

The warnings of White Nationalists have come true. The latest news is that the fastest growing US population group is that of mixed-race persons:

Multiracial people become fastest growing US group
AP

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090528/ap_on_re_us/us_multiracial_americans;_ylt=Ap76SjttWTMuOJu_MxS0A3ZH2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTM4MTZuaHJmBGFzc2V0Ay9hcC8yMDA5MDUyOC9hcF9vbl9yZV91cy91c19tdWx0aXJhY2lhbF9hbWVyaWNhbnMEY3BvcwM2BHBvcwM2BHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcmllcwRzbGsDbXVsdGlyYWNpYWxw

Anonymous said...

Multiracial people become fastest growing US group

Good that is awesome news. Whites have ruled this country long enough.

Mystic Knights of Indiana said...

Good that is awesome news. Whites have ruled this country long enough.

May 29, 2009 5:38 AM

Whites have made this country what it is! Free. Name one negro nation that has a gross domestic product like we do. Most of these negro nations are run by dictators that starve their people to death. Ethiopia, Somalia and the like. When the whites were in control South Africa was a nice place. Now look at it. Whites create minorities destroy. This is the cold hard fact. Negroes cannot run a country like this they will run it into the ground. Obomber is living proof.